using sustainable materials and sustainable processes
Chris:
I’ve heard some companies talk about the sense that there is an expectation from consumers of perfection in products. You can look at phones as an example of completely seamless products- there are no joints, no screws. What’s interesting about the keyboard is that you could interpret that as a sort of a natural product where inconsistency in the flakes maybe shows imperfection. Do you think consumers are moving towards more of an acceptance of that kind of effect- when it comes to sustainability because maybe there are certain materials where it would benefit them not being so perfect and pristine?
Alastair:
If you ask me that about the consumer today, then I would say no, I think there still is an expectation of perfection driven by Apple over the past five, ten years. I think we have to change that and I think the consumer will evolve in their understanding of materials, evolve in their understanding of sustainably and the implications of sustainability. I think, if you ask me in five years time, in ten years time, I think the consumer will be having a very different perspective, I hope they will have a very different perspective.
That’s the challenge, I think, for Logitech - we discuss it a lot. At some point we may need to think about how we communicate that our product is using sustainable materials and sustainable processes versus the competition. Because if the consumer doesn’t understand that ours may be more sustainable in materials and finish than the competition, they may look at our product as a lesser product because of that perfection dimension.
It's almost not apples and apples as a comparison. How we do that? I think we’ve still got to look at and explore ideas. Its like food packaging- where food packaging now, you look at the packaging and it talks about the food inside, it talks about sodium, fats, fibers, etc, etc. So you have a sense of how healthy that food is inside the packaging. I wonder whether this idea from packaging is going to have to happen, within the consumer electronics market. It's going to have to play a role similar to that in the early days, where a consumer can hold a mouse against another mouse and see that, functionally, they are the same product but also then recognize that one is far more sustainable solution than the other.
I mean, we are moving in that space. There will be companies who take a position and pioneer and drive towards more sustainable solutions and others will be slower, but the consumer won’t recognize that, and we’re going to have to work out how to, ‘educate’ sounds awfully patronizing, but make consumers more aware when they’re making those choices.
Chris:
What else can you share about Logitech’s approach to the environment?
Alastair:
In general terms, we’re incredibly committed to sustainability, and not just an abstract sustainability target, we have distinct sustainability targets which are aligned with goals beyond Logitech. We’re looking at the Paris Agreement and other measures. We’re looking at our complete footprint and handprint for the whole company, from our factories to try and make the factory carbon neutral, packaging and all the way down through materials.
So it's not like we flick a switch and we’ll go, ‘okay, everything has to be fully recyclable material from the get go,’ but we are committed to transforming the whole portfolio in line with our sustainability targets. Things like PVC cables, we’ve dropped three years ago. It's more about transitioning the whole portfolio from not just materials but how we may assemble them, how we may make them disassemble-able, so the full circular program.
Chris:
I have heard that at Logitech you are doing this not because we’ve done research that says your consumers want you to do or expect it, but actually, because you, ethically, feel that you should be doing it.
Alastair:
I completely agree, that’s why we’ve not really talked about it publicly at all. This is very much going up to Bracken going down to the leadership team across the board. It's a commitment to our future generations, it's not a commitment to making a more sellable product to the consumer.